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My headlight doesn't currently work(but I'm pretty sure tomorrow I will wake up, magically transformed into a wiring genius) but that's at least a little bit besides the point....

I need to buy a new headlight on top of fixing my wiring problem and I have seen a few options out there and I wanna know what works and what others have gone with. I don't really want to fork out for the sealed beam unit(unless there's a resource I'm not aware of that sells em for less that $75). I'm curious how the headlights that screw off with the HID bulbs work in the ring and bucket assembly. I've been wanting to at least find a site that shows the back of the headlight so I can figure on how it would work. Also, are there other options I'm not thinking of? I did surgery on the old bulb in my sealed beam unit and replaced it with an H4 ATV light but its 2 long sticking out the back in order to fit. Would it be feasible/possible to aquire a deeper bucket that would fit without modification? I don't have all the fancy tools most of you guys out there have and I also need to spend the least amount of money possible. Any opinions as to what has worked for you would be much appreciated! Thanks
 

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Check out these. Cheep, GREAT Quality (will give you the sharp definition to your light pattern).

I've got the CX500, and it fit the stock headlight-frame perfectly.



After re-reading your post... I think you are looking for a new Headlight Lamp (to replace the sealed beam) and put either an HID unit or H4 bulb.

This will replace the lamp. I don't know what your headlight-frame assembly looks like, but I image it would fit perfectly... ??



Take a minute to add the year and model to your signature line. I saw you have a 650.

I would have been able to look up the schematic for your headlight, if I knew the year and model.



Hope that bit of info helps
 

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The headlight is a 7" sealed beam unit. The outside of the ring is 7" so the light itself is smaller. That's kinda why I wondered if a 7" headlight would fit. The round car 7" sealed lights do not fit into the assembly(which is too bad cuz they cost like $8).

1983 honda cx650 custom
 

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The headlight is a 7" sealed beam unit. The outside of the ring is 7" so the light itself is smaller. That's kinda why I wondered if a 7" headlight would fit. The round car 7" sealed lights do not fit into the assembly(which is too bad cuz they cost like $8).

1983 honda cx650 custom
 

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They've got to be a 7" lamp. The part that you're measuring is a thin metal frame that the headlight sits into.

My guess would be that the Automotive lamp has different attachment points.



Take the headlight assembly apart and measure the headlight itself and see ??



Speaking of Automotive VS Motorcycle headlights ...

You really want a motorcycle specific lamp to keep your Single Light from blinding on-coming traffic.
 

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Yeah. I've had it apart. The ring is 7" and headlight itself is slightly smaller. I think I will take your advice and order the headlight from the link you posted. Thanks
 

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The joy of the 650 is that it has a goofy headlight. It's only a sealed beam with no newer replacement.



I don't have my 650 here but I remember this conversation and something with the front ring doesn't allow the replaceable aftermarket bulbs to fit. But if it were me I would inspect the headlight more and see how to make a newer one work before shelling out $75.
 

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Ok that's it. The reason why it's goofy is that the headlight ring would have a rear ring to hold it in place where the 650 has it on the sealed bulb itself.



 

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Ok that's it. The reason why it's goofy is that the headlight ring would have a rear ring to hold it in place where the 650 has it on the sealed bulb itself.



 

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I have a 83 650C also. I need a new headlight for mine also.. The round unit in the bike is a 6 1/2" round standard sealed beam. I have been searching for a Hologen replacement for it and am coming up with ZIP! If anyone has any info on a 6 1/2" replacement unit that will accept an h2 or h4 bulb... i'd love to hear from u. I have also looked for an HID conversion that will fit into my shell ... HELP!! Thanks Mike
 

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If I understand Blindstich right... well take a look at the headlight assembly for the '78 cx500





What I'm seeing is that here the sealed beam sits within three frame pieces.

On the schematic for the '83 cx650, there are only two frame pieces. The third seems built into the headlight itself.



So the "aftermarket switch" to allow for an H4 bulb or HID unit requires you to change the headlight BUCKET at well.
 

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If I understand Blindstich right... well take a look at the headlight assembly for the '78 cx500





What I'm seeing is that here the sealed beam sits within three frame pieces.

On the schematic for the '83 cx650, there are only two frame pieces. The third seems built into the headlight itself.



So the "aftermarket switch" to allow for an H4 bulb or HID unit requires you to change the headlight BUCKET at well.
 

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in looking into the problem, there are tons of 7" lights out there.... Is it paooible to machine 1/4".. off the inside of each headlite stay and squeeze a 7" HL shell into the opening?.. looks like there is enuff meat in the aluminum HL stay to gain the 1/2 inch needed for the switch. the standard incadesent beam doesn't give the amount of light that i like to have. I'm headed to a bike salvage today and measure a few 7" buckets and see if the swap is possible... I'll let u know Thanks Mike
 

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Yup, I'm a little bummed now as I ordered that 7" headlight last night.
Suck! Let me know what u find. There has 2 b some reasonable solution
 

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I almost wonder if the original mount could be modified in worst case scenario.



I once cut off the interior bulb from a moped headlight because new was $50 and jbwelded in a new bulb just fine. Aiming could be tricky if you don't do it right.
 

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I did try that in my current situation. The way the new jb welded bulb sits in the headlight makes it too long to fit into the bucket. I think I'm just gonna try and cancel my order today. There HAS to be someone out there that has had a dead headlight on an 83 cx650c! Need advice!
 

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According to my favorite on-line dealer's parts list, all these bikes use the same headlight:



CX650C A (83) MOTORCYCLE, JPN, VIN# JH2RC110-DM000018 TO JH2RC110-DM010120



VF750C A (82) MOTORCYCLE, JPN, VIN# JH2RC071-CM000033 TO JH2RC071-CM027062



VF750C A (83) MOTORCYCLE, JPN, VIN# JH2RC071-DM100011 TO JH2RC071-DM122819



VT1100C A (85) MOTORCYCLE, USA, VIN# 1HFSC180-FA002276 TO 1HFSC180-FA006775



VT1100C A (86) MOTORCYCLE, USA, VIN# 1HFSC180-GA100101



VT1100C AC (85) MOTORCYCLE, USA, VIN# 1HFSC181-FA002001 TO 1HFSC181-FA005150



VT1100C AC (86) MOTORCYCLE, USA, VIN# 1HFSC181-GA102191



VT500C A (85) MOTORCYCLE, JPN, VIN# JH2PC080-FM200015 TO JH2PC080-FM213392



VT500C A (86) MOTORCYCLE, JPN, VIN# JH2PC080-GM300001



VT500C AC (85) MOTORCYCLE, JPN, VIN# JH2PC081-FM200011 TO JH2PC081-FM201593



VT500C AC (86) MOTORCYCLE, JPN, VIN# JH2PC081-GM300004



VT700C A (84) MOTORCYCLE, JPN, VIN# JH2RC190-EM000007 TO JH2RC190-EM015991



VT700C A (85) MOTORCYCLE, JPN, VIN# JH2RC190-FM100001 TO JH2RC190-FM113279



VT700C AC (84) MOTORCYCLE, JPN, VIN# JH2RC191-EM000001 TO JH2RC191-EM002306



VT700C AC (85) MOTORCYCLE, JPN, VIN# JH2RC191-FM100002 TO JH2RC191-FM101901



VT750C A (83) MOTORCYCLE, JPN, VIN# JH2RC140-DM000035 TO JH2RC140-DM022807







Gotta be plenty out there used. Why reinvent the wheel here?
 

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I have a full set of Dremel tools plus my regular Snapon die grinders with carbide cutting discs, I have not taken my headlight apart on the CX650 but if it is a sealed beam it won't be for long, I will JB Weld a socket so I can have a replaceable lamp, I have some old headlights from my Silverado plus a backyard of Subaru stuff and such, I'm sure I can make something. But my idea was to make a circuit board with some hi intensity LED emitters, say 3-4 20 watt whites.
 
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