[americanclassic]

So, my bike stuck in gear. I had the rear cover off a while back,and havent started the bike yet. Im not sure if the fact that the bike hasnt been started in a while would make it difficult to shift.



One thing I can think of that I may have screwed up is I dont think I put that little spring on the shifter gear back when I reassembled.



I hope I dont have to take the whole thing back apart.

 

[Blue Fox]

I bring you sad tidings of no joy. That spring is important! I'm afraid you will have to remove the engine and cover and put it back. Then before you button it up, try shifting with just a couple of bolts to hold the cover down. It should shift easily, but you may have to rotate the output shaft a bit to get it to go. The length of time you have had it apart probably doesn't affect the shifting.

 

[Blindstitch]

Yep the spring is special. And I don't think it is made anymore either.



Check and see if the shifter lever is in the right position too.

 

[americanclassic]

Damn. What does it do?

 

[ramprat06]

I have no personal experience, but one would assume the spring returns the linkages to a proper position for the next action, much like a ratchet does. Click, return, Click, return.

 

[shadowjack1020]

You can also get the selector lever off a tooth, so check for proper gear selection before you put the cover on again.

 

[Shep]

You can also get the selector lever off a tooth, so check for proper gear selection before you put the cover on again.

Ditto to the above.



This is how it should be

If the spring does need replacing you could most likely find/adapt one,



http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/200-...Z120641486675QQptZMotorsQ5fAutomotiveQ5fTools





Also the mechanism on the right hand side looking at the engine with the rear case off must have been assembled correctly with the correct spacers and rollers sitting in their correct places.



Although not your model they are all the same on the CX/GL500s so these may have one,



http://www.donandroys.com/fiche_sec...ry=MOTORCYCLES&make=HONDA&year=1980&fveh=3399

 

[DavidfromWisconsin]

Unless you have the spring in hand and know for sure that it wasn't installed on reassembly ... try to reposition the shift lever.



If it is in the wrong position you will not be able to change gears. Look to make sure that it is not touching either the engine nor the exhaust parts at either end of the throw.

 

[bear351c]

Here's the Number.

 

[bear351c]

Dont ask me how I know.........

 

[Blindstitch]

You must have got the last one. They are NLA in the USA. Last summer some were found in Canada. If only customs knew that they were being smuggled over the border to preserve these bikes.

 

[marshallf3]

Looks similar to some springs I've seen at the Ace/True Value hardware stores one of which just might work.

 

[americanclassic]

I remember struggling to get it on, then thinking "how important could this possibly be?"



Well damn. At least I learned something.

 

[marshallf3]

You must have got the last one. They are NLA in the USA. Last summer some were found in Canada. If only customs knew that they were being smuggled over the border to preserve these bikes.

Bike Bandit is still showing it as available for $2.02 if it's #16 on the fiche, then again other places are saying discontinued.

 

[Blindstitch]

We're talking about #14 on the fiche.

 

[marshallf3]

We're talking about #14 on the fiche.

Looks similar but I couldn't find #14 anywhere. Wrote TAS for the heck of it with that part #, you never know if they've got something stashed away. I still think if we had exact dimensions and a guess at the spring pressure a substitute could be found.

 

[Sture]

Funny!



I believe this is the second or third time that availability of this spring has been up - I´m talking about a longer period.



Every time before it was said that the part was NLA. As a "panic/squirrel" reaction I ordered one / a couple from my local Honda dealer. A couple of years ago, as I remember. Two separate occasions. Both times no problem.



Right now I checked with CMSNL and this time it surely seems the spring has been discontinued. Can´t check with my Honda dealer, as they´re closed until next year.



I can´t see that I´ll ever need all the springs I have (at least 3 unused and probably a couple of used ones), so if you can´t find anything closer to you, I´m willing to part with one.



CMSNL have this one (NLA)listed at € 2 (~$3). That´s without VAT and shipping. I don´t remember (can check next year) what I paid last, but probably something in the region of twice that (based on previous experience). Postage would be about $ 1.5. Say that we land at ~ $ 7 - 8, to get my outlays covered. No gain. Unused item, of course, in its plastic bag.



Only hard part would be to find them. I know they´re floating around there, somewhere in my garage.



??





Sture

 

[americanclassic]

Thanks for the offer. Hopefully I'll be able to find the one I took out.

 

[magilla]

Might also have something to do with rear cover gasket thickness.



If the rear cover gasket is thinner than the original then something binds internally, not sure what but i've read about this being a problem before.



I think the gasket should be .8mm thick, off the top of my head.



Good luck with your "stuck in gear" problem and hope this is of some help to you.



stu

 

[Shep]

Might also have something to do with rear cover gasket thickness.



If the rear cover gasket is thinner than the original then something binds internally, not sure what but i've read about this being a problem before.



I think the gasket should be .8mm thick, off the top of my head.



Good luck with your "stuck in gear" problem and hope this is of some help to you.



stu

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This is a good point and worth reiterating.If the gasket is too thin or omitted in favour of say gasket sealer the Advance and Retard unit will bind against the Stator causing almost inevitable damage to both!