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Who just moved and is bringing me the title Wednesday. I've been lurking for about a month and just started posting recently. Hello everyone!



To the bike: It has a minor gas leak on the left side of the tank, and is misfiring. After reading here it sounds like it could be the CDI (GOD I hope not) or something else. This is my first project with this kind of undertaking!



It does run if the battery is fully charged just one one side is firing. I haven't done anything to it yet but stow it at my dad's garage. So I haven't started to tear it down yet at all. I know from reading the "what to do I bought a bike" in the guidance thread I need to replace the brake lines, brakes etc. I am getting the tank off this weekend and taking it to a local rad shop to boil out and repair for me.



Stripping the paint and making it yellow with a black racing stripe down the fairing and tank....



Thoughts?



And a pic of the bike...







edit: the tassles are going bye bye saturday morning
 

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Jon, first, welcome to the board! Let me compliment you, you have done everything right! If you have been lucking for a while you know we have had some difficulty in getting new folks to enter all their info when they join, not so in your case! It looks like you have a very solid bike. That Vetter fairing does not appear to have any cracks, so maybe the bike has not been down. I am sure you will get plenty of good advice, much better than mine since I no longer work on my bikes. Having said that I could suggest you be cautious on the tank. After you get it cleaned out you may have more leaks than before. I was not able to use the creme treatment on the first tank I had on my 82, it turned out to be too far gone, leaked like a sieve!



Check the for sale thread, some time back I saw some side panels for sale. When you figure out what you need put up a "Needed" post on that thread, you may get some results. BTW since you will probably get your bike up & running before June, consider joining us at the Mountain Momma rally in Marlinton, West Va June 10-12. The thread about that rally & the Amish rally is in the Southeast riders forum. Again, welcome to the board.

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Thanks! The only thing wrong with the fairing is the pop outs on the windshields are old and cracked but thats an easy replacement from vetter. I'm only missing one side cover thankfully and that's the battery cover. I'll let the people at BikerChurch Roanoke know about the ride. It may interest them!



The tank itself looks like it's only in the one spot as far as I can tell. I'm having the rad shop fix the tank (hopefully) I know they aren't coating it but they are going to boil it out and repair it for $60.00 which sounds like a decent price, unless someone else in this neck of the woods knows a place I can get it cheaper.
 

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Welcome in! +1 on getting things entered right!! (Yay!!)





I had a small leak in my tank last year. Mine was prepped for a sealer, filled it up with water, the small hole in the tank was welded, and then the tank was sealed. It's not as bad as it may seem!
 

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Welcome to the forum, Jon. And like Gene said, thanks for filling in your profile information without being asked. It makes it so much easier for us to help. You can look on the steering stem and get the year from your bike. It may be a little harder to see with the fairing, but you should still be able to see it.



Running on one cylinder is a common problem with unused bikes. It may have been sitting because of this, or maybe sitting caused it. I would check for spark on both sides first, ground the sparkplug to the frame, not the valve covers. If you have a spark on both sides, the problem is likely fuel related. Pull those carbs and do a deep cleaning of them. All jets, emulsion tubes and rubber removed. Either a good soak in cleaner, or better a ultrasonic bath. Make sure all jets are back to original size, put the larger number back in the brass hex fitting, and blow carb cleaner through all passageways. Then follow with compressed air. Larry's book will be a great help if you haven't done this sort of thing before. And even if you have, it will still help.



I am envious of you to have a restore to play with in the early spring. You should have it purring by the time it is comfortable to ride. Let us know if you have any questions, we love to help out a newbie, and won't berate for any question. (Except maybe which oil to use.)
 

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I sealed before the painting took place (and I had someone else paint it) so I had a month of curing before gas was ever put in....





Here's what I used, and I would fall under the category of "complete beginner" when it comes to this kind of stuff- and it was SUPER easy!



http://www.caswellplating.com/aids/epoxygas.htm





Application Instructions



All traces of oil and gasoline should first be removed by pouring about 1 pint of acetone or lacquer thinner into the tank, and rotating the tank several times to thoroughly sluice the sides with solvent. Dispose of the contaminated solution.



When recoating your gas tank from failed Kreem or POR-15 tank sealers, remove the old, failed coating using a paint stripper containing Methylene Chloride.



Place a hand full of drywall screws into the tank and shake them around vigorously for several minutes. These will dislodge any loose particles of rust. In the case of Fiberglass and plastic tanks, this will rough up the tank interior, improving adhesion.



Rinse out the tank with about 1-pint of acetone or lacquer thinner, then set aside and allow to dry. Use an airline to blow air into the tank to aid drying.



Apply duct tape or masking tape to any weeping seams, holes or porous areas. This will stop any Gas Tank Sealer from oozing out, and will allow it to bridge over the hole. Plug the outlet ports with putty or Play-Doh. Mix up the required amount of Gas Tank Sealer (one unit should treat two small motorcycle tanks or one large one) If you are only treating ONE small tank, then divide parts A & B in half. You could use a dipstick to gauge this.



In a separate plastic container (margarine tub etc.) mix the two parts together thoroughly for at least 2 minutes. Scrape around the sides to ensure all resin is blended together. BAD MIXING AND BAD MEASURING IS THE #1 CAUSE OF FAILURE!!



Pour into the tank, then immediately seal up the filler hole with Gladwrap and an elastic band. Swill the tank around in every direction for several minutes to obtain a good layer of Gas Tank Sealer over all surfaces. Remove the filler cap,Gladwrap seal, and pour out any excess. Allow to drain upside down for a few minutes.

If you have a built in fuel filter, blow air into the fuel line port for about 10 minutes. This will clear the filter of any Gas Tank Sealer.



Scrape off any excess with a sharp knife at this point (usually about 40-60 Min after mixing) Place the tank in a warm 70-90 f place and allow to cure overnight. In the case of alcohol fuels, allow 3-5 days at room temperature, or 24 hours at 120 deg f.



Our Motorcycle Epoxy Gas Tank Sealer Kit coats two small motorcycle tanks or one large one.







your call, but I have nothing bad to say about it so far- like I said though mine was welded then sealed too, I wanted it done as right as possible
 

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Welcome to the forum, Jon. And like Gene said, thanks for filling in your profile information without being asked. It makes it so much easier for us to help. You can look on the steering stem and get the year from your bike. It may be a little harder to see with the fairing, but you should still be able to see it.



Running on one cylinder is a common problem with unused bikes. It may have been sitting because of this, or maybe sitting caused it. I would check for spark on both sides first, ground the sparkplug to the frame, not the valve covers. If you have a spark on both sides, the problem is likely fuel related. Pull those carbs and do a deep cleaning of them. All jets, emulsion tubes and rubber removed. Either a good soak in cleaner, or better a ultrasonic bath. Make sure all jets are back to original size, put the larger number back in the brass hex fitting, and blow carb cleaner through all passageways. Then follow with compressed air. Larry's book will be a great help if you haven't done this sort of thing before. And even if you have, it will still help.



I am envious of you to have a restore to play with in the early spring. You should have it purring by the time it is comfortable to ride. Let us know if you have any questions, we love to help out a newbie, and won't berate for any question. (Except maybe which oil to use.)


From what I was reading Pine Sol does a wicked good job on cleaning carbs
 

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Welcome to the group, looks like a good solid start for you. You've got some great back roads around you, I went to college at Tech in Blacksburg and used to ride my beat old Honda nighthawk around, loved the road up to Mountain lake. One of these days I've gotta get back down there.
 

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Welcome to the group, looks like a good solid start for you. You've got some great back roads around you, I went to college at Tech in Blacksburg and used to ride my beat old Honda nighthawk around, loved the road up to Mountain lake. One of these days I've gotta get back down there.


I'm looking forward to it, my group goes on rides in warm weather at least every other saturday typically, plus I'm planning on commuting on it (haven't told my wife that yet LOL)
 

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Welcome to the group! I, too, am a Hokie! Once you have her running, the road from Catawba to Blacksburg, out by The Homeplace restaurant, can be pretty entertaining. (At least it was in a '76 LTD Wagon; I hope to get up there to ride it on my bike!) Good luck with the work!
 

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So you are looking for a 79 Deluxe left side cover?




Was it that obvious?
Yeah I will be needing one.



Teacher Tim: I drove that in my car back in the 90's and it was hairy then. Then again I was a driving a 86 Fiero GT AND wasn't even remotely following the speed limit HAHA.



I found another complete bike locally on CL for 250 with the title but dude sold it the day I called about it.
Missed my parts bike by a "hair"
 

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Hi Jon,

Welcome. I have been out of town and just got back and saw your post. I am a newbie here too, but live close by out at SML. I just started restoring a total POS GL500 I got in a trade for a sailboat recently. Carbs are in pieces, almost ready to go back together. Then I need to clean and seal the tank and do a total tune up. We'll see where it goes after that.

Be glad to help or just commiserate with you if I can.

I saw the CL ad from the guy with 5 bikes to sell - was that the CX you missed? I was going to look into it when I got back, but looks like the ad is gone. Too bad there were not titles for some of the other bikes he has.

Good luck!
 

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Hi Jon,

Welcome. I have been out of town and just got back and saw your post. I am a newbie here too, but live close by out at SML. I just started restoring a total POS GL500 I got in a trade for a sailboat recently. Carbs are in pieces, almost ready to go back together. Then I need to clean and seal the tank and do a total tune up. We'll see where it goes after that.

Be glad to help or just commiserate with you if I can.

I saw the CL ad from the guy with 5 bikes to sell - was that the CX you missed? I was going to look into it when I got back, but looks like the ad is gone. Too bad there were not titles for some of the other bikes he has.

Good luck!




yeah man thats the one I missed. I just hope my problem isn't the CDI after I get the tank fixed..... don't want to wait on it from overseas.



We start work next Saturday LOL. I cannot wait!
 
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