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I am really loving the way my bike feels now, runs great, all-balls in the triple and new fork seals, rebuilt the pro-link linkage...no squeaks, handles fine, but there's still something about riding position that's not quite right. It seems like I'm sitting too low. I've sat on a couple other CX/GL bikes and the seats are definitely higher. My seat is an obvious re-upholster job, nice new cover.



Someone told me that the original seats had a layer of soft foam for comfort on top of a layer of "hard foam" - the stuff that gives the seat its shape and height. Mine seems to be missing the "hard foam" layer -- you can feel the plastic pan with your fingers.



Seems to me this affects handling because I'm sitting lower. Also, knees are bent at more than 90 degrees in normal riding position, so they start to ache like hell after about an hour. And I can feel the plastic pan with my butt bones, bumpy roads mucho oucho.



I would like to re-stuff the seat. The new cover is stapled on, so I think I can remove it and re-staple it after I add whatever material I need to.

I would like to know what the stock seat thickness is, and what material I should use.

Instead of measuring seat thickness, I thought it might make sense to determine what the stock measurement is from floor to seat surface with the bike on its center stand. With mine on the center stand, I put a level across the seat about even with the "W" on the side cover SilverWing badges, and measured 33-1/4" from concrete floor to the bottom of the level. If anybody would oblige me to give me your height measured the same way, that would be a great help.
 

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All Original 82 GL with Original seat is 33.5 inches on center stand. And yes even at 5'10" my Knees and legs cramp-up. I Added some Hi-way pegs
 

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All Original 82 GL with Original seat is 33.5 inches on center stand. And yes even at 5'10" my Knees and legs cramp-up. I Added some Hi-way pegs






You don't get off that easy. Post some pictures of your highway pegs if you don't mind. I tried making some about a year ago but they didn't work out. I'm always looking for fresh ideas.
 

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It's really up to you how tall you want your seat.  I modified mine because I felt like it locked me into place too much, so I took the cover off, shaped the stock foam a bit to make it flatter, and then cut and glued together strips of a closed cell foam pad I bought at walmart in the camping section.  I just added progressively smaller pieces on top of each other, like a very gradual pyramid, and made a little cut out in the stock foam to place my pyramid into and fit the stock seat cover over top of it.  The cover doesn't fit perfectly now so it's not a beautifu, custom seat look, but it works and feels better than it did before.  As for the layer of soft over the hard in the stock seat, mine was old and the 'soft' foam in the cover itself had rotted out.  For the deluxe at least, it looks like Honda made the foam on the seat pan relatively hard, and then put a layer of soft, open cell foam into the seat cover.
 

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Get a memory foam seat pad and just put it on top....it's AMAZING the difference it makes. It's not only comfy but it raises me up a bit more as well giving my legs an extra inch maybe. An inch doesn't sound like a lot but man it's really a huge difference for a taller guy (I'm 6'1") I can ride forever without getting sore and my legs feel fine.



The CX is kind of odd in that it has a higher than average seat height compared to most bikes which makes you think it's for a taller person yet once you're sitting on it there's not much distance to the pegs which makes you think it's for a shorter person.....it looks like a cruiser yet it's more comfortable leaning forward a tad (I have the sissy bar hold me up) and putting your weight on the bars with your arms.
 

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I`m interested to see those pegs as well. I would like to add them but I don`t know where to mount them.
 

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You don't get off that easy. Post some pictures of your highway pegs if you don't mind. I tried making some about a year ago but they didn't work out. I'm always looking for fresh ideas.




This is as simple as I could make them just a set of aftermarket footpegs,and spacers (threaded rod couplers)I re-bent the U shaped attach bracket to fit tight around the spacer and the corner lugs on the engine and used a longer bolt thru the spacer with another smaller spacer to reach past the pipe. I put them on in mid june and there holding up fine ,there ok to rest your feet on but dont try to stand on them. with a little practice you can shift and brake with you heel. I am working on plan "B" to make them stronger.
 

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Thanks for the pictures. Thats helpful.
 

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Interesting about the GL...

If your over 5' 11" ... your legs feel cramped.

If your under 5' 7" ... you have a difficult time standing flat footed.
 

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this bracket under my engine is broken is there a way to "fix" it? I know it is next to impossible to strongly weld cast metal especially aluminum... but does anyone have any suggestions that may be cost effective?
 

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Since i was pointed to this thread, i figued i'd share a bit of a revelation i had tonight. While considering setups for highwaybars for my 78 DEEEElux, i noticed that my header goes below these mounting holes on the block, making it so the thread coupler nut probably wouldn't work. So while dejected, and pondering my stack of various parts i have sitting in a box, i noticed that the rear foodpegs conveniently fit on that block mounting lobe with a bit of modification. Sure, they won't hold any real weight, and i'm still a tad sketchy about attaching anything to a cast aluminum block, this seems like it might be a cheap and easy option for some of us. The only issue i foresee is toasty warm feel from the header!





more tomorrow when i get to modifying stuff!
 

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Interesting about the GL...

If your over 5' 11" ... your legs feel cramped.

If your under 5' 7" ... you have a difficult time standing flat footed.
I'm 5' 9" and my legs feel cramped. And again, I think it's because I have no hard foam in the seat, so when I perch my huge 152 lbs. bulk I sink in so I can feel the plastic pan with my butt bones. Might not be so much the height as the poor padding, circulation ain't what it used to be, etc, etc. In any case, I'm going to try Kingston's idea cutting up a camping mat and stuffing it between the soft foam and the pan. The gel seat cushions all seem to be upwards of $50, which is currently beyond my means.
 

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i am not to sure if its a good idea to use those tabs for highway pegs in the off chance you go down then your screwed because those are connected to the engine and sure do like a little weak to support the weight of a bike if it goes on its side keep in mind i am not saying its not a bad idea i like the look thats for sure but i am not sure on the strength of them thats all now then if some one is willing to lay there bike down on its side to find out how well they hold up thats another thing but i dont think anyone here is willing to do that
 

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i am not to sure if its a good idea to use those tabs for highway pegs in the off chance you go down then your screwed because those are connected to the engine and sure do like a little weak to support the weight of a bike if it goes on its side keep in mind i am not saying its not a bad idea i like the look thats for sure but i am not sure on the strength of them thats all now then if some one is willing to lay there bike down on its side to find out how well they hold up thats another thing but i dont think anyone here is willing to do that


Lucky, that's exactly what I've been thinking as I've been following this thread.......1. The real strength of those little tabs and what would happen if they broke. 2. Stretching your legs around/over those valve covers and around the headers ???
 

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I picked up a set off ebay that have a flat steel plate conected to them. I pulled off my Honda crash bars and welded the plate on the inside of the crash bar right were the bottom bolt is. There is just enough room between the bar and the engine. The plate goes out and down from the mounting point and the peg goes out from that. They seem to work ok, but my bad knees are still healing so it is hard to tell if they are in the right place yet. I will take a picture after I am sure I am done bending them around.
 

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According to here - seat heights



GL650 D2-E, GL650 I

770 mm (30.3 in)



All GL500 models, GL650, CX650C

780 mm (30.7 in)



CX500 C-B, CX500 C 1979, 1980, 1982

790 mm (31.1 in)



CX500-B, CX500-C 1981, CX500 E-C, CX650 E-D

795 mm (31.3 in)



All CX500 D models

800 mm (31.5 in)



CX500 (UK), CX500-A, CX500 1978, 1979

810 mm (31.9 in)
 
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