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These are some really sweet lookin' pipes. I wish to heck there was something similar for the "KZ440LOL" I'm building for my teenaged Ex-Daughter. I should get some pics from different angles, maybe they WOULD fit, come to think of it....

I'm surprised you guys were able to find local muffler shops willing to work in this smaller diameter tubing.

Heck that makes me wanna try & whip up a 4-4 system for my "CB900K0 Bol Bomber"! I've got an original WOLF pipe on it right now, but to tell the truth I wish there were better access to the sump and the oil filter. What I visualize would be four decent shotguns pipes running wide of the sump, and then I'd enlarge my patented "Sandwich Style" DEEP SUMP mod, with the sliced up CB750F sumps, maybe even go for something really huge down there, for the net effect of an RC-series like RC181, Gramma of all subsequent DOHC-four Hondas let alone all other Honda fours.

And when I think of the best way to make that work and muffle everything, I wish to hell there was an H-BOX for these bikes. If you check out the GL1000, it's got a great "four-into-Hbox-into-two" exhaust, and it looks awesome. IMHO that'd be one hell of a system for the DOHC-four. Especially if it LOOKS in the end just like four bare "shorty" shotgun pipes. Bloody complicated to construct, as compared to four bare simple tubes. Let alone sticking it onto the bike. Ah, but one can dream. Even if it makes me look like an ass when everybody else wants the pipe I've GOT. Well, at least they THINK they do.....

I miss the simplicity of a twin with unconnected parallel pipes. I guess that's what has me hankering after the 4-4.

But this one here, I'm gonna squint long & hard at pics (bike-porn pun intended) of Murray's pipes (just got weird) to see if it would fit the "KZ440LOL". IMHO the absolute DREAM exhaust would be a high-pipe SCRAMBLER set-up, with the chromed heat shields etc.

Plenty of folks doing cut-&-tack-&-weld exhausts, kits where you get two U-bends and a couple of straight sections. But I'm diggin' the thought that a local MUFFLER SHOP could bend up a pipe. Well - maybe YOUR local muffler shop. Around here, I've had a hell of a time just getting drum hubs skimmed out, paid through the nose for a steering-stem pressed out & cut. Ridonculous. Thinking I might take my next big job to the nearest bigger TOWN!

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murray what would it cost to ship a pair to Australia ?(postcode 4017).
 

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When welding these up, are they supposed to slide over the top of the ring at the end of the header or just butt up to it? My rings seems to stand a little proud to just slip in or might by slightly out of round or something, nothing a little file work won't take care of if I need to. It's cold in the shop or I'd have fiddled longer before asking...
 

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I'm looking into getting some of these with a full carb kit but I just want to know, as a newby with practically no welding experience, how difficult is this to weld? I imagine that in order to get the pipe lined up well on the bike the header, and therefore the extension, should be on the bike while welding it. If this is true, wouldn't that make it difficult to get the weld all the way around the extension piece? Just trying to piece together If I should look into getting this thing welded by a professional or not.
 

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I'm looking into getting some of these with a full carb kit but I just want to know, as a newby with practically no welding experience, how difficult is this to weld? I imagine that in order to get the pipe lined up well on the bike the header, and therefore the extension, should be on the bike while welding it. If this is true, wouldn't that make it difficult to get the weld all the way around the extension piece? Just trying to piece together If I should look into getting this thing welded by a professional or not.
I can reply as a relative newbie to welding, I just did this last month. I have a MIG set up that I am still learning on, no expert by any means, I'm comfortable repairing broken tool handles, trailer steel welding, basic stuff like that, I had never done exhaust welding. I fitted up Murray's pipes, cut them to length, and did some practice joints from the left over tube scraps to get the heat and feed rate dialed in. Then I fitted them up on the bike, clamped everything in place and tacked each pipe in 3 places. Then removed from the bike, used some simple magnetic welding clamps to hold it down to my makeshift welding table (1" steel plate stuck on top of a steel milk crate, lol) and welded one side, flipped it over and finished the bead. Then repeat for the other side. Easy peazy. Probably 30 minutes total, including anal retentive set up and practice welds.
 

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Alright awesome, thanks knightscape. Just sent the payment for an upswept set with the carb kit. I'm excited to see what this bike'll do once I get all of this on.
 

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I am wondering if a stock exhaust gasket packing sleeves will fit between the adapter and the headder flange area. I just am not sold on the idea of welding. I want to clamp it or use springs.
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I am thinking the same thing. I am going to use my Murray's pipes on the machine I use in the winter and wherever I have welded the exhaust in the past rusts faster.

The Murray pipes are the right size to fit snugly into the Harley mufflers I have so using the Harley clamps there shouldn't be an issue.

But they are really loose on both original headers and the new set from Silver's. The difference looks to be about 1/8" so I can easily make adapters out of a piece of exhaust pipe to fill the space. I really don't want to use U-bolt muffler clamps this time. Anyone have any suggestions about suitable clamps?

Also, any ideas about how to keep them from rusting when they salt the roads? (BTW, another reason I don't want to weld is so I can replace them easily if they do rust out).
 

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I haven't used them, and they're from China, but if you've got some relief cuts and a gasket, maybe?
 

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These would be ideal except that I'm not sure whether they will fit. The page says "up to 2" but I've never seen them in person and its hard to tell from the pic whether they will work on 1.75" OD pipes. I submitted a question about it so we'll see if I get an answer. The next time I'm going to be near an exhaust shop I'll take the pipes with and ask there too.

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These would be ideal except that I'm not sure whether they will fit. The page says "up to 2" but I've never seen them in person and its hard to tell from the pic whether they will work on 1.75" OD pipes. I submitted a question about it so we'll see if I get an answer. The next time I'm going to be near an exhaust shop I'll take the pipes with and ask there too.

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did you clamp them in the end ?
 
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