Ah thanks for the info, i will be looking into that as an idea, would be awesome to carry some spare fuel for a long ride or mini vacation J I C. I did not mention but i always have my rain suit on my bike cause ya never know. i am thinking i will add a bit more tools to the kit as i go along. nice to see from this thread & the thread Stubby mentioned, on what everyone is using. gives anybody many options on what they may or may not feel needed to pack.