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OK guys.
This is gonna sound really familiar.
I am out riding and the bike runs sweet. Good throttle roll on, perfectly happy seeming, just grand.
The next day it runs fine through the lower RPM and as long as I am accelerating through the gears seems OK but once I start cruising and it comes up to temp well then anything over ~4500 or 5000 rpm and there is hesitation, surging, and bogging down. Generally only happy at lower RPM. If I open the throttle all the way it will eventually find its way up to speed but it takes forever!
OK I figure carbs need more attention. I rode the next day anyway and runs great! Everything is good. The next few times I ride it is a crap shoot. Today I noticed that if I let it get good and hot before turning on the E-Fan it ran much better (good and hot being 2/3 of the way up the scale or so). Also it has stalled twice now when coming down off a higher RPM and pulling in the clutch.
Today I tested the CDI resistances and they were all about 20 -30 Ohms high except 8-9 which was spot on.
This was my reference:
http://globalcxglvtwins.hostingdelivered.com/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=521
Then I saw here :
http://cx500forum.com/index.php?/topic/8649-feels-like-i-have-a-rev-limiter/
That Rick was saying to test the CDI output
"Disconnect the coils, remove the spark plugs from the cylinders, set multimeter to 200VDC, connect the multimeter "+" Lead to the CDI output, probe the multimeter lead to ground terminal on the battery. Ignition on, roll the bike over/hit the start button noting the highest voltages on the meter. These values will fluctuate, so just watch for the highest value.
"
Mine spiked up to about 200Vdc then quickly drifted down to ~50 Vdc each. I am not sure if my meter is averaging or not. To be honest I am used to having a Scope for these kinds of test. If it is averaging that # is probably OK if it is not averaging then they are ugly.
So the bottom line is I no longer think it is Carbs because they would misbehave more consistently. Do you agree that carbs would be more consistent?
Do you think I should investigate a CDI or an Ignitec?
I have not tested the Stator mostly because I have had crap luck finding the values I am looking for.
I just have not looked long enough yet.
***********Edit
Before this started I have:
New Coils and plugs. Pulled plugs and found a nice tan color.
I know one boot is cracked and I tapped it heavily. I have new plug boots on order.
No problems with the charging circuit or starting.
The left carb weeps some fuel but I am not sure why, yet.
I have been through the carbs three times or so and followed THE HOLY BOOK.
I used simple green and an ultra sonic cleaner. Soaked them overnight before after and during the ultrasonic treatment.
I might have missed something, I am barely human - just ask my ex-wife.
Just so y'all know what I have tried so far.
This is gonna sound really familiar.

I am out riding and the bike runs sweet. Good throttle roll on, perfectly happy seeming, just grand.
The next day it runs fine through the lower RPM and as long as I am accelerating through the gears seems OK but once I start cruising and it comes up to temp well then anything over ~4500 or 5000 rpm and there is hesitation, surging, and bogging down. Generally only happy at lower RPM. If I open the throttle all the way it will eventually find its way up to speed but it takes forever!
OK I figure carbs need more attention. I rode the next day anyway and runs great! Everything is good. The next few times I ride it is a crap shoot. Today I noticed that if I let it get good and hot before turning on the E-Fan it ran much better (good and hot being 2/3 of the way up the scale or so). Also it has stalled twice now when coming down off a higher RPM and pulling in the clutch.
Today I tested the CDI resistances and they were all about 20 -30 Ohms high except 8-9 which was spot on.
This was my reference:
http://globalcxglvtwins.hostingdelivered.com/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=521
Then I saw here :
http://cx500forum.com/index.php?/topic/8649-feels-like-i-have-a-rev-limiter/
That Rick was saying to test the CDI output
"Disconnect the coils, remove the spark plugs from the cylinders, set multimeter to 200VDC, connect the multimeter "+" Lead to the CDI output, probe the multimeter lead to ground terminal on the battery. Ignition on, roll the bike over/hit the start button noting the highest voltages on the meter. These values will fluctuate, so just watch for the highest value.
"
Mine spiked up to about 200Vdc then quickly drifted down to ~50 Vdc each. I am not sure if my meter is averaging or not. To be honest I am used to having a Scope for these kinds of test. If it is averaging that # is probably OK if it is not averaging then they are ugly.
So the bottom line is I no longer think it is Carbs because they would misbehave more consistently. Do you agree that carbs would be more consistent?
Do you think I should investigate a CDI or an Ignitec?
I have not tested the Stator mostly because I have had crap luck finding the values I am looking for.
I just have not looked long enough yet.
***********Edit
Before this started I have:
New Coils and plugs. Pulled plugs and found a nice tan color.
I know one boot is cracked and I tapped it heavily. I have new plug boots on order.
No problems with the charging circuit or starting.
The left carb weeps some fuel but I am not sure why, yet.
I have been through the carbs three times or so and followed THE HOLY BOOK.
I used simple green and an ultra sonic cleaner. Soaked them overnight before after and during the ultrasonic treatment.
I might have missed something, I am barely human - just ask my ex-wife.
Just so y'all know what I have tried so far.