Well, I broke down and bought a table lift. Picked up a Titan 1000D-XLT with side extensions. To many bike projects to work on and I am tired of being down on the ground and on my knees. http://i929.photobucket.com/albums/ad136/johnste1960/lift%20table/KGrHqJlQFSgRg4BQPNyUzR60_12_zpscyjqlnoo.jpg